Wednesday, November 12, 2008
human rights

I'm having a very hard time understanding how we could have advanced so much as a people so that we actually Elected a person of color as The President of these United States, (Praise God....) but in three states of our beloved country, we have taken away rights and/or denied some people their unalienable rights at the very same time.

Are we really about hatred?
Gee, I thought we were actually about love. Love is what truly matters and love is what can change the world. We proved that on November 4th, and yet......And yet.....these Propositions of Non-inclusiveness and hatred, passed, in three states...These propositions that said...'You are less then, and you don't deserve to have the same rights as the rest of us'....passed, in three states!!!

I find this so very sad and so reprehensible, too.

Keith Olbermann said it all for me. Please watch this video above. It is, in my view, incredibly profound.

More To Come.......

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Blogger PI
had this to say:

That certainly was an impassioned speech and as he says he has no axe to grind. I can only imagine how I would feel if MTL and I could not be married. It means so very much
to both of us.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 4:07:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

I was watching Keith Olberman when he delivered that monologue. It brought tears to my eyes.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 5:44:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

Dear Naomi, I will try to understand the video...

About your comment, you are right, health issues for sure! A very wit comment!

Have a nice day!

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 5:44:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

I forgot to say, I also saw that the next Windows will be Windows 7. I hope I could feel more comfortable with the Vista soon!
Many hugs!

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 5:46:00 AM PST 

Anonymous Anonymous
had this to say:

Thank you so much for putting this you know, I watch Keith just about every night and darn it, missed this one. I knew he'd be speaking about this and forgot. So I really appreciate being able to catch it here!
He said it ALL and as always, so honestly and so well. I also was astounded that didn't pass in Calif. And I'm ashamed of Florida, but not surprised, due to the mind-set in many areas.
Just shaking my head at the ignorance that still pervades our country, but I will NEVER understand WHY people canNOT just live and let live. Like Keith said, "what's it to YOU?" He was spot-on.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 5:51:00 AM PST 

Blogger Mar
had this to say:

I was very moved listening to him, Naomi, he is so right, it's a question of love!!!

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 7:03:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

I was also moved by what he says. I don't understand why some people spread hate using the Bible or God when infact Jesus was only spreading about love and compassion. They should go down from their crosses since somebody needs the wood

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 7:13:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

I have seen Keith's piece several times now and it still strikes me each time

I especially reacted when he asked how gay marriage could possible threaten anyone else. I have been asking myself that question for so long.

thanks so much for posting this

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 7:41:00 AM PST 

Anonymous Anonymous
had this to say:

Hi Naomi, I did not watch this video, but guess I do understand, how people are thinking, and will not argue, what the bible says with any one everything is open to interpation. My take on same sex unions is it should be allowed, for convience, there are many same sex families, that have formed a union, for compainion ship, or to help one another, be it children or our indivdual personal needs. But the Bible does say it is a sin. But it is not a greater sin than another say example murder. Its all sin. This is a most diffucult subject for me because, people that I love very much are dealing with this issue daily. Think that civil unions should be allowed regardless if sex is involved or not, that is not anyone's business. But a Marriage is between a man and a woman. For me the key word is Marriage. What am taught, is a sin is a sin, one does not hate the sinner only the sin. And do not forget we all sin,every day and we are also not to judge. Now watch the hate mail. p

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 9:09:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

P....I must say something to you. The Bilble says lots of things that some people have chosen to NOT believe. There is a laundry list of "sins" that the Bible said was okay....but the majority of people choose to disregard these things because they are against the law. Secondly, The Bible was written by men. Human Beings whi have judgements and beliefs that were NOT in keeping with Jesus, as I understand him. Personally I have never understood how anyone can put such faith in a book, written by MEN that has many many archaic ideas in it. But that's just me.

All one has to do is put themselves in this equation to see how truly prejudiced it is.

I do not see how anyone marrying effects other people's marriage, or the so called "sanctity" of marriage. I just do not understand what the terrible threat is here that The Bible is called in as Witness to this....And as to sins, well....that is a whole subject that could take reams of paper. But let me just say that Killing is a sin, yet we are in an illegal WAR where thousands have been killed.

Where is The Love in this??
Tell me, P., where is the love in all this judgement about marriage. Why should anyone care about someone else's loving marriage??

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 10:04:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

Oberman said it well. As long as letting someone else do something doesn't have any affect on you - then why should you care? People blow my mind.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 10:33:00 AM PST 

Anonymous Anonymous
had this to say:

Naomi, I certainly agree, with most of what you are saying regarding, the book that was written by men. But what has been explained to me is that faith, in the fact that these men, were directed by god, and more than any thing, I have to beleive that there is a god and he is in control. Aside from, that there are lots of things I also do not understand, like why does God let things happen to children, why would god, let them, get sick and die. Why are so many starving to death. But also many of the things that are wrong with this world that we now live in, is because we as people across the globe, are doing lots of things that are again Gods teachings. And that does include myself. And for whatever reasons we all come with different set of prejudces, tell me why do I find male homosexuals more unacceptable than females, am I trying to reason in my head, whats ok to me, most likely, because I want it to be ok, even if my core belief system knows different. Why are Jewish people god's chosen ones, I was married to one, the man was a liar a cheat and a thief, why would he have been a chosen one. I did not want to enrage you, only to say, that I can understand, what those people are trying to say. p

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 1:46:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

Naomi, thanks for posting this. I wholeheartedly agree and I know some people who need to see this video!

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 3:53:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

I was very surprised when I heard. Such a step backwards :(

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 5:54:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

"This is about the human heart." I agree with him.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 7:25:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

Naomi - how inspiring - thank you for posting this video - it was great to see Oberman so passionate. Love is all that matters. Wow - hugs across miles to you. Suzann

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 7:45:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

Wow - a great speech. Brought tears to the eyes.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 10:49:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

P...I hope you come back and read this because I would love for you to do something for me.
Please, watch The Video. He speaks with so much Humanity and true caring....And even if you do not agree with what he says, I think just watching it may help you with your own feelings which you expressed in your second comment here.

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 at 11:07:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

I totally agree with all you said here and thank you for having the courage to say it. I saw Olbermann the night he delivered his words. I think he was close to tears. It is very upsetting to me also.

It is beyond my understanding why letting gays be married hurts anybody else. It isn't like encouraging them to live a wild and promiscuous life. It's letting them live like anybody else. It is not a choice to be gay. It is also not a sin. The bible is talking about promiscuity in say Romans 1, the fundamentalist Paul's book where he comes down on them but it's not homosexuality but those who are into sex that is almost bestial.

Loving one person and living with them, raising children together, mowing the lawn, having the respect of the community, that is not a sin. The sin has been that it has been stopped in the name of fear. Cruelty has been allowed too long by those who fear for their own lives by their idea of a vengeful god.

It is natural for some animals to be born homosexual and we are in the end bodily animals. My hope is this will change and someday it'll seem as crazy to Christians that they ever bought this line as it was that at one time they saw the Bible forbidding inner racial marriage! I don't think we should be patient about this change either. It's never time to be prejudiced against someone else for their own nature and love is hard enough to find let along to deny it to some because of antiquated religious ideas that aren't understood by most who worry about it anyway.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 7:28:00 AM PST 

Anonymous Anonymous
had this to say:

Naomi, Good Morn, will watch film, most likely later this afternoon. Am at work. K will send you my e-mail address. p

Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 7:41:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

One of the things I missed most was watching Keith each night. I missed this so thanks for sharing!

Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 8:02:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

I LOVE Keith Olberman. I agree with everything he said, and everything you said. Sometimes I am amazed at the intolerance that exists.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 3:04:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

I love this post, I am going to post this also on my blog, I do not understand why people who follow the bible pick and choose what to follow, the bible also says its ok to prostitute your daughter, so should we follow that too becasue the bible says so??????

Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 3:53:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

I cannot believe, you live in a country where you vote in a coloured president, yet the following day you put a stop to same sex marriages. Two step forwards, one step back. Unreal.

What an amazing video - it brought tears to my eyes. It is nobodies business about who marries who - all you need is love. Same sex, different sex. Love is all you need.

Thank you for sharing this post Naomi.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 at 11:35:00 PM PST 

Anonymous the fat lady
had this to say:

Gay marriage is not the real target of prop. 8.

Fundamentalists of all kinds--christian, catholic, muslim, mormon,jewish (yes, jews too!), gays, and especially humanist and athiest "true" believers want to teach their credo as the only truth not only to their flock, but in our schools to those who are not members.

Fundamentalists are big on "prevent theft--lock your mind" They see nothing wrong with intolerance because they know they're "right". Throughout history these attitudes have been responsible for unbelievable uncivilized behavior.

This prop. should have prohibited favoring one religion or philosophy over another. Instead, they meddled in what is essentially a religious ritual, the qualifications for which are the business of the organization to which the couple belongs.

Technically, under church law, there are no gay catholics or mormons, let alone those who want to marry!

There is actually nothing in the constitution about separation of church and state. That is in a 20th century supreme court decision.

BUT the constitution clearly says that congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion, nor that restricts the free practice thereof. Prop.8 is clearly in violation, and will be declared unconstitutional. (fed trumps state)

In the meantime, these fuzzy thinkers wasted millions, stirred up ill will, and did nothing to address the real problem which concerns them.

the fat lady

Friday, November 14, 2008 at 12:36:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

Wonderful! So moving. It gave me chills. I'll pass it on. xo

Friday, November 14, 2008 at 8:05:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

Unfortunately I doubt i'll ever live to see a day when people just "live and let live". *sigh* Makes me very sad.

Saturday, November 15, 2008 at 7:35:00 PM PST 

had this to say:

This comment si going to be short as I have only one emotion to convey. I find Prop 8 disgusting.

Sunday, November 16, 2008 at 2:40:00 AM PST 

had this to say:

How passionate for a news person.

Glad people are speaking up.

Monday, November 17, 2008 at 10:24:00 AM PST 

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