Naomi what a deep and passionate post. You could feel how much that time meant to you.
Do you have any idea how much those buttons are worth now? I couldn't help wondering that. Most political memorablia from that time is quite a collectible.
I so agree with you about giving people antidepressents etc. way too easily. Elvis is a good example of what prescription drugs can do to you. Almost everyone I know takes something. I am not going to do it. I understand there are times in life that you might need some help and I understand mental illness. But some people need to find out WHY they feel the way they do and fix it, not pill pop. It just can't be good for us as a society. I'd rather take the pain (emotional) let it make me stronger and live life! People don't want to FEEL anymore.
Thanks again for a wonderful post!
Interesting posting today, especially since I'm a Canadian. I was born in 1962 so really missed all this. All I know about it is from movies, documentaries, articles, books, etc. So it was nice to get the perspective of someone how had "lived" it.
Naomi, there are some things you don't know about the medical profession. Yes, drug companies send reps out to push their new drugs... you imply that most are tranquilizers and mood altering drugs but this isn't the case. Antibiotics, diabetes medication, high blood pressure medication, new medication to slow the ravages of Alzheimer's, medication for AIDS and chemotherapy agents for cancer. As former President Bush said the other night on Larry King, if his daughter who died with leukemia as a child, had been born today she very likely would be alive and in remission and would have grown to adulthood.
Secondly, while the drug companies may try to push their wares, only physicians who actually work for the drug companies are paid. Yes, the drug companies leave samples with the doctors and he may give them to patients to try, but the patient doesn't pay for these. Physicians are constrained by the hospitals they work in and the insurance companies of their patients. The hospital pharmacy puts out a formulary, a list of the medications they will stock and this is what the physician must choose from. The insurance companies do the same. I have found that my parent's doctors work with us in finding the best medicaion for the treatment that is also on their insurance formulary and substituting when needed.... it has nothing to do with the drug reps. For example, my mom was on a medication for restless leg syndrome and a mild antidepressant (she has severe chronic pain). A new medication came out that would treat both, with fewer side effects and wouldn't exacerbate her diabetes. Her doctor researched it and thought it would do better for mom and it did. The restless leg pain went away, we only had to get one medication instead of two and her diabetes control wasn't altered.
Almost forgot.... I was in high school in the sixties. While musing about this I found it amusing that the feminist movement at that time included the women in long hippy mumus, marching in the streets, burning their bras. Now the anthem seems to lean more towards the "lock and load the girls". How times change, although I guess you would have to at least mention that period of Madonna's influence.... wearing the underware on the outside.
Terrific post, Naomi, which really leaves me thinking...First of all let me congratulate you on your great memory, this is such a gift! you remember all those little details and emotions...what a sensitive and alert person you are!
This was truly a little history lesson to me, since I am not a US citizen. Your smart observations regarding the current political situation in your country leave me thinking that unfortunately it is an overall situation in the world. Which is very sad. I haven't ever been eligible to vote because I grew up in a dictatorship and after that I have been living abroad, paying taxes and following all my obligations as a citizen, but without the right to vote...
"Where are the men and women who haven’t been bought and paid for? " It is sad, Naomi, isn't it? and I see the new generation is more involved in video games than in youth organizations... something is very wrong...
You brought up very good points, Naomi. Hope everyone reading your post thinks seriously about the current situation and about the direction the US should follow. It's a world leader, there is a huge responsibility. Beginning with every citizen...
What a wonderful post Naomi and very thought provoking. It is sad isn't it that there really is no one to vote for. And Congress needs a good house cleaning too I think. In the 60's I was very young but I remember those times since it was so horrible and I noticed how deeply effected my parents were by what happened. Everyone was glued to the TV and my Mom sobbing when JFK was killed.
I liked your take on drugs and the prescription drug effect on our country. I never thought about it like that but I'd say that very possibly you are right!! I worked for doctor's and I know the drug sales reps and how great they treated us. That is one reason our meds are so expensive. They spend so much on advertising, it is unreal. We got note pads, pens, clocks, paper clip holders, staplers, and lots of free lunches! If you go to ebay now you can even buy these things from people! I was amazed at how much there is offered and I wonder how they get this stuff? Yeah, we got these things given to us to use at the doctor's office but they didn't give you that much of it!
I liked the collage you did. They certainly chose the right person to do that!! :)
Ah, the 60's. I am very thankful that none of my brothers had to fight in the Viet Nam war, but I know some that did, and so many died. It was horrible.
Great post Naomi. Just great!! You should run for President. Then we'd have someone to "vote for."
Interesting post since I dont know much about American politics and such. I know a little due to movies and also reading magazines and newspapers.
That was a very good post and brings back my own memories. I had not wanted Kennedy for president but had coincidentally been in downtown Portland when he was speaking on a steetcorner at a rally and stopped to listen. Only a short time later, someone, who had dropped by, told me he had been murdered. I couldn't believe it and turned on the tv. It was horrifying. After my friend had left, I painted a painting in broad, passionate strokes all in reds, gold, blacks and browns of a figure huddled in the foreground while in the distance a city burns. It was such a disillusioning time to have had so many die that way in such a short span. I hope our country never has to go through such again. It's bad now with the helpless feeling a lot of us have regarding the political direction in this country, the fear that people no longer care if there is cheating or the votes are manipulated through some computer fraud. Not much to say except a sigh. We do what we can to get people to see, and you certainly are with what you write here.
What a wonderful post! So true on so many accounts. Where are all the men of vision?
I so had hopes of Harold Ford. He's young, with great visions. TN politics has gotten so nasty. So awful.
It's true on the drug companies. Over half the population is on antidepressants. You have to maintain a politically correct attitude at all times at work, at play. Passion is seen as out of control. Tears a sign of weakness. Anger as threatening. What used to be common emotions, unwanted side effects of life now. I am among the ranks of anti depressant users. To hide the emotions, I'm not suppose to feel.
Where have all the hero's gone?
HI Naomi..
I've never been very political. I do know I don't like our "now" president .. and the last president I voted for was Kennedy! As they say most remember exactly where they were when they heard the news that he was shot. I remember.
You are very right about having no one to vote for! (remember I don't follow politics)..but I think they've all gotten away from helping the people in their own country! Everything from finding ways to NOT be dependant on other countries to totally forgetting the elderly... sad sad sad.
How powerful your post is. I'm too young to remember the Kennedy years, but I know now our country is so different. I'm actually embarassed by our government and the 'dirty' politics. They get dirtier and dirtier. I saw the Oprah interview with Obama and I really like him. But, he hasn't officially announced his candidacy yet and many times, they say one thing but behave another way once they're in the limelight. All we can do is wait and see.
Naomi, I just love reading your posts. You need to write a book!
Hi Naomi, I havent been able to comment for a while as I switched to Beta and it wouldnt let me in..
As always sooo interesting.. I dont know much of the facts re American politics aside from what you see on tv so its really great to read first hand accounts.. By the way I still havent been able to get my hands on that movie, but our friends from Texas are visiting so they will send me a copy when they get home.. It will be a nice christmas present :) So I will let you know as soon as I have seen it..
We love watching your show hehehe x
What an incredible post! I wasn't alive in the 60s, but I did watch all of those documentaries on PBS (you know how I love PBS). They were inspiring. I loved being able to hear your experiences of that time (and to see that incredible collage!)
The drug situation is horrible in our country. Of course there are people who legitamately need to take certain prescription drugs, but most people are certainly overmedicated every day in this country. It is scary to see what this can do to a person.
Very interesting post Naomi, about memories of the 1960's! It's a great opportunity to learn more about your country. I remember exactly where I was when Jonh F. Kennedy was murdered. I will never forget this tragedy!
I agree with Chris, I love reading your posts and you need to write a book!
I do vaguely remember Norma Connelly. I am pretty sure that she was Luke's aunt. It amazes me at how many people you know!!
It's very interesting to read about these times from someone who was there.
Great post, I admire your memory as I lived through the 60s (but was very young!)and whilst the history element I could do I couldn't have put in the personal recolections.
Certainly Nixon wasn't the right choice after LBJ????
By the way popped in from Michele's this time.
I have such mixed feelings of being uplifted by knowing some of those greats existed and so sad that they were taken ... our hope. I don't think we'll ever learn the truth of it.
I worry mostly about children. I volunteered for a hospice camp for kids a couple of years ago and we had this training on how to deal with meds. I asked....why? Are most of them on meds...related to the loss they experienced. The answer was NO...they are just mostly on meds.
A good bumper sticker: Recess instead of Ritlan!
I always always learn something when I read your blog. I think people who lived these experiences are the ones who should be in front of the classrooms teaching it.
And btw,I love doing collages. :)
I'd do one for Bush if they let me use lots of monkeys.
~S
Great post, Naomi. But I will comment about anti-depressants:
Back in "the day", many people...women especially... wound up in sanitariums with "nervous breakdowns", etc. When I went through my major bout with clinical depression and bipolar disorder, and finally received proper treatment that allows me to function today, I realized that in years past I would have been termed "crazy" and locked up or lobotomized.
Depression...real depression...is not a 'sad' state of mind that one can snap out of. It is a physically debilitating condition that can easily lead to suicide. I know. I was there, in that black hole, and could not dig myself out.
Similarly, I used to think that ADD/ADHD were a crock until I had a child of my own who suffers with these disorders. My son cannot function: cannot dress himself, cannot sit still long enough to eat a meal, cannot socialze appropriately without his medication. But on it, he is a bright, engaging, focused person who has accomplished amazing things... and is making friends for the first time in his life (at 11 years old).
SO... while I do believe that some people and children are unnecessarily medicated, don't be so quick to judge. Diabetics don't feel guilty about taking insulin... the same is true for people who suffer with brain-chemistry disorders. "Recess instead of Ritalin"? (one of the commenters wrote)
That truly shows a lack of understanding and compassion. If a cancer patient opts for chemo, do people tell her to "suck it up", or suggest that she go jump rope to feel better?
Off my soapbox now! You know I love ya. And I'd vote for Obama in a heartbeat.
I often wonder what would have happened had RFK not been killed. Funny how history can often turn on one tiny twist of fate - not tiny for the one victim, of course.
Sometimes, I regret that I was too young to really appreciate what made that era so unique. I've tried to learn by reading, but there really is no substitute for being there, as your personal experiences have proven time and again.
Thanks once again for being our window on a pivotal time in history; the effects of which remain visible today to those of us astute enough to pay attention.
The 60's also produced Tom Leher's prophetic "he gives the kids free samples 'cause he knows full well, today's young innocent faces will be tomorrow's clientele." Pharmbiz has developed addictive drugs to keep its customers hooked. Not surprising, since many of the big tobacco execs who hatched the nicotine schemes now work in the biz. I feel sorry for the kid whose mother is hooked and is destroying her boy's ability to deall with life, clean and sober.
The 60's also produced Tom Leher's prophetic "he gives the kids free samples 'cause he knows full well, today's young innocent faces will be tomorrow's clientele." Pharmbiz has developed addictive drugs to keep its customers hooked. Not surprising, since many of the big tobacco execs who hatched the nicotine schemes now work in the biz. I feel sorry for the kid whose mother is hooked and is destroying her boy's ability to deall with life, clean and sober.
A very inspiring and passionate post, Naomi!
The 60's were indeed a bittersweet time...but you're right, the operative word to describe those years was PASSION. Something that has sorely been lacking in this country the past 6 years.
As my post of last Thursday stated, we DO need another McCarthy, RFK, JFK or Martin Luther King to stir America's passion once again. It's not dead and buried...it's simply been in limbo...and the time has come to force it to the surface. You know my thoughts on Obama...it's somebody like him or Edwards that I feel has the intelligence and competence to stir America's passion once again. Here's hoping.....
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